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| Author: | DennisR [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:55 am ] |
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And not the finish. Someone mentioned denatured alcohol, but it did not seem to do it. Thanks |
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| Author: | ecklesweb [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:59 am ] |
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Top three solvents that jump to my mind for any task are water, alcohol, and acetone. Acetone will dissolve plastic binding, don't know if that's the same as vinyl binding (never heard of that before, but I'm new here). Whether acetone impacts the finish depends on what the finish is, but I'd guess not since most are petroleum or alcohol soluble. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:31 pm ] |
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Acetone will dissolve celuloid binding. Acetone is the solvent for the plastic cement but will also act upon the finish . Alcohol won't touch the cemenet as they have a different volatile. What is it you are trying to do? john hall |
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| Author: | DennisR [ Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:53 pm ] |
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I am replacing binding on a 50's epi regent in natural and i want to mske sure I use enough glue (I apparently did not the first time). When I pull the binding wiht tape to hold her in glue will here and there ooze out and get spread a bit ont he top finish under the tape. Take the tape off and there will be glue on the finish. Any thoughts? |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:39 am ] |
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I hate touching up binding. This is one tough job. I usually mask off the top but that isn't allways enough. Glue for binding can be the same base solevent as the finishing material so you have to be careful. I am sure you will still have some touch up to do john |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:04 am ] |
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Use white PVA glue for this job. The trick is to wipe the gluing surfaces of the binding with acetone just before gluing. This softens the binding and lets PVA adhere to its surface. Clean the rabbet and the binding of old glue first. The excess PVA will rub off the finish. |
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| Author: | DennisR [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:39 pm ] |
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PVA glue is vinyl glue? |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:01 pm ] |
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Yes and no. It's polyvinyl acetate, but it is not for gluing vinyl. If you are using vinyl binding, it probably won't work. If you use acetone as I suggested, it will glue celluloid bindings. You have not made clear what it is you are doing or what the problem is. Are you using the old binding or new? If new, is the new binding vinyl? When you ask what dissolves vinyl binding glue, are you asking for a solvent for a glue that is itself vinyl, or a solvent for some glue that glues vinyl? Why do you need a solvent? What glue have you been using? |
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| Author: | David Collins [ Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:40 pm ] |
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EVA (a close relative of PVA) is made specifically for this type of job. It's used in cabinetry for glueing synthetic veneers to wood. Roo Glue is what I've used and it was discussed in more depth (okay, mostly kangaroo jokes) here a few weeks ago. It cleans with water when wet or alcohol after drying. It is excellent for a freshly routed slot and new binding, but I have had poor results when I have tried to use it for small area reglues without completely removing the binding to clean the slot. I personally use fish glue for this type of job. As Howard said, it would be helpful to know more details. Things like condition of the slot and specific type of binding can play a major role in deciding the ideal adhesive. |
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